Gwenny Cooman I thought there might be prejudices towards a city council that can be a drawback. Some stakeholders might fear losing autonomy or getting regulated, and not everybody wants to be engaged, of course. But this takes time and confidence and understanding between people grows. Besides, in the beginning it was hard to establish the network, faith and impact within the municipality. Because even though we have a food strategy manager, it's still not clear for other departments who work around food to always link their goals to the food strategy or involve the food strategy manager. That's an ongoing process, I think. It's the same thing with the Sustainable Development Goals. It has to become part of the daily awareness, and we have not yet reached that point. Kathy Belpaeme I also think that some of the typical topics we are working on are challenges in themselves, for instance, shifting to more plant-based diets. We are not there yet at all. To bring an anecdote: Yesterday, I was guiding a class through the Gardens of Stene. I asked the young people of 16, 17 if someone was vegetarian - only one person raised their hand. Of course, this can change, but I think we still have a long way to go in this protein transition. I am happy that within our city council, we were allowed to do activities and campaigns. But you can feel that it's still a sensitive topic for a lot of people. On top of that, just making people aware of all the necessities of things: of not wasting food, why it would be a choice to eat more plant-based food and so on. It is about changing habits. For me, a challenge is also finding the role we can play as a city in this. For example, what is also not our role as a local government? What can other governments do? How can we support other cities in achieving their goals and if so, how do you do that? How can we involve all the different stakeholders? It could be citizens, but it could also be companies, it could be supermarkets. How can we have a common understanding of what it means to shift towards this more sustainable food system? Gwenny Cooman I totally support that - behavioral change is crucial. But how to influence that and how to measure the impact that we have as a city, is not the easiest thing to answer. However, it's not impossible. If you look back at the big change in smoking, for instance, that was also a big behavioral change. And it happened. So let’s make this one happen too.