Katerina Riviou You know, one of the elements of the Living Lab approach is to open the school to the local community, to integrate societal actors into the educational process. This is not something easy to achieve, and to have these actors actively engaged. But we have been working on this open school model for many years now. We have coordinated the first opening school project in fact. So, we are always trying and working in this direction. Because we also feel that the expertise, stakeholders from the quadruple helix of innovation, which includes researchers, industries, NGOs, etc. which are quite useful to be integrated into the educational process. The final step in this approach is that the outcomes of the educational interventions go back to the local community. So, at the end of every school year, we organise festivals or open days, where the outcomes of students’ projects are shown to their families, to their important others, and of course, to the local community. I also think that COVID and lockdowns, etc. were a challenge. Also, for addressing other food system stakeholders. We did have the opportunity, though, to run an interesting survey at that point on the dietary habits of students during school closure versus before. But it was a high effort, you know. Funding is another challenge. Because we are also working on multiple levels. So, it's a different thing if you are just working internally than if you try to extrapolate your approach to organisations as well. So, resources, financial resources are needed. And I also think if the connection to local policy makers is strong, that could create a great push. But also, because we have been active in other projects for a long time, we are also strongly connected to policymakers with the Minister of Education, as you can imagine. So, the Institute of Education and Policy. So, this is another venue for helping us reach out to national levels.